This is the podcast for accountants who want honest conversations, real stories, zero fluff and a little bit of industry gossip.
Two friends who know the industry, know the pressure, and know exactly why you sometimes fantasise about throwing your laptop into the ocean.
We are oversharers who talk about the parts of practice life most people only admit over a wine: client chaos, money, tech meltdowns, leadership wins (and losses), boundaries, burnout and industry gossip.
Think of it as a warm hug with friends in a space where it’s safe to laugh, question the status quo, and feel a little less alone in this wild profession.
Honest. Human. Occasionally unhinged. Always useful.
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New episodes every fortnight.
The Hosts
Sarah Lawrance
Sarah Lawrance isn’t just changing accounting - she’s rebuilding it from the ground up.
Crowned 2025 Thought Leader of the Year and winner of the Accounting Excellence Award, Sarah is one of the Top 50 Women in Accounting globally and a fierce advocate for the future of the profession - tech-powered, purpose-driven, and unapologetically bold.
She’s the Founder of Hot Toast, a B Corp-certified accounting and advisory firm built for creatives, innovators, and high-growth businesses. Through its newest arm, HT.AI, Sarah is leading the firm’s evolution into a fully automated, AI-first advisory powerhouse, helping clients scale through insight, automation, and strategic firepower.
An FCPA, active member of CPA Australia, part of the Xero Partner Advisory Council (XPAC) and an Ignition advocate, Sarah is obsessed with the potential of the accounting profession. She’s a relentless advocate for women, sustainability, and redefining what’s possible, unafraid to push boundaries, ask uncomfortable questions, and storm the castle if that’s what it takes to move the industry forward.
Because if we do this right, no one gets left behind.
Less bean counting. More bold moves. Welcome to the new era of accounting.
Natalie Lennon
Natalie Lennon is an award-winning accountant, keynote speaker, podcaster, Tiktoker and all-round numbers-turned-storytelling nerd who’s obsessed with empowering people to build businesses (and lives) they’re actually excited to wake up to.
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After more than a decade in public practice accounting and a very dramatic “I’ll-do-it-my-way” exit from a partnership she founded Two Sides Accounting and later Two Sides Academy, where she combines her love of tax, accounting, strategy, tech, mentoring and a little chaos-wrangling into something that genuinely helps business owners and accountants do better.
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A Fellow Chartered Accountant, CAANZ NSW Regional Counsellor, part of the Xero Partner Advisory Council (XPAC) an Ignition advocate, Natalie is passionate about moving the Accounting Industry forward and challenging old ways of thinking.
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These days you’ll find her
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Speaking on stages across Australia about business growth, mindset, digital transformation, and the real human stories behind accounting
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Creating straight-talking content for a community of business owners, accountants and advisors who are sick of the corporate fluff
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Writing for publications like SmartCompany and Accountants Daily, demystifying tax, cashflow, tech, marketing and the future of the profession
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Mentoring the next generation of accountants and firm owners who want to break the old “this is how it’s always been done” mould
Proudly Sponsored by
A huge thank you to Ignition for sponsoring Accountants After Hours.
Both Natalie and Sarah both use Ignition in their own firms and genuinely love it, not just as a piece of tech, but as a game changer for proposals, pricing and getting paid properly.
As members of the Ignition Advocates Council, they’ve seen firsthand how committed the team is to pushing the profession forward and backing progressive firm owners. So when it came time to choose a sponsor for the show, it was an easy decision. Partnering with a brand we actually use, trust and talk about daily just made sense.
Send us your Accounting Industry Gossip
We want your gossip for our tea time segment.
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Who is merging with who?
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Who got drunk at which event and said what?
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What dodgy accountant did what?
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What team member did what?
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If it made you gasp, laugh, or whisper “noooo way”… we want it. Send it in and yes, we’ll keep it anonymous - we don't want to get sued.